LVC analysis

Right now I am selling an early type Levi‘s LVC Type 2 Lot. 507 Jacket  SOLD! Any infos in addition to mentioned in listing would be appreciated, thank you. Only thing I remember, got the jacket +10 years ago, but I forgot the determining factors... (getting older or better simply handled to many items all over the years).

Edited by 58panheadfan - 17 May 2019 at 12:10pm

2 years back, I turned a few friends on to a mining system- that I was never going to go in (we don’t repell down shafts)
They ended up finding a major Levi puzzle piece-from what I think is the 1876 time period ( I believe the mine started sometime in1875) Unfortunately this piece went under the knife back in the day, so what’s left of the pant is most of the waistband- both front pockets- the fly and no back pocket.

For the first time- I got to see a readable Levi label from the mid 1870’s—- It’s changed what we know

It looks that, maybe as early as 1874- Levi leather labels had (every pair guaranteed)

Sometime in the 1880’s the label changed from saying duck and denim pants to duck and denim clothing (The LVC wording label always says duck and denim clothing)

Sometime in 1887- the white labor white women factory on Fremont street opened- the factory was- in what was called the Donahue building-the Donahue building was being constructed in 1885-86 and by the end of 1886 it was complete and the first tenant moved into the building ( the first tenant was named and moved into the building November of 1886- and it wasn’t Levi Strauss)

This is how we pegged Levi starting their new factory sometime in 1887

Levi has in their archive a 1887 XX factory pant with blank shank buttons and it has the wording label still intact
I’m not sure what’s on the label- but one thing is clear- in somewhat big letters, stamped diagonal across the patch is the words ( white labor only) You might recall we found a double pleated 1 pocket Levi jacket that had the same label that I described- I thought our jacket at the time was from the 1889 time period when most likely it was from the 1887 time period.

We know now that the 2 horse brand label was trademarked in California- February of 1888 and this is when we think the 2 horse brand was first being put on pants- the old information still stands when it comes to the 2 horse brand progression- when the 2hb first started- every pair guaranteed was no longer on the label- it looks as if lot numbers and every garment guaranteed was put back on the label- sometime in 1894

So some of my information given early on in this thread (is wrong) Levi’s kid duck pants are older than we thought and Leather labels did say every pair guaranteed up until- most likely 1888


Edited by Sansome - 05 Nov 2019 at 9:25am

Amoskeagdenims wrote: I enjoy this topic about the canvas and buckle back models, i worked at the rosebowl from 1997 to 2004, wholesaling to Japanese, importing deadstock european workwear  and some levis, maybe some of you were at the rosebowl too.

The first time I started going to Rosebowl in 2009, I was a 1800’s snob for years, I considered 1920’s too new…man was that dumb, those must have been some good years to be at the bowl, I hear it pretty much sucks now, I think it’s the Long Beach flea now, meaning better stuff there.

Amoskeagdenims wrote: thanks man, yes i know many swap meat ending like this, selling shampu now, i did long beach airport show at that time too. at the rosebowl my friend Rudolf falcon was the right hand of Marc wertx american rag, and little farer was Harry Hellers cafe, he was more often on my booth checking stuff than i check his booth cause i fell mad all the time, jealous and his pants,,lol...good souvenir...i am in spain now, i bought low of machine and got some denim from japan, it has been dificult and expensive importing, in europe they dont respect the EPA act betwen japan and europe and we pay lot of taxes customs etc...anyway, i have been involved with collecting levis jeans since 1987, will sew a canvas pants soon 1873 base on some images of the smithsonian and here too.  But Samsone, you have a serious collection of buckle backs do you? very nice images here.

That’s history now, I work construction still at 55, I work by the hour and have side hustles, I got to
The point where I couldn’t really afford keeping it, my kids needed cars/ college/ a shit ton of pets etc…
I started selling 1-2 pieces every year for about 12 years. I still have 1 really nice pair that I can’t sell, still on the hunt, one of these times he should hit it big/ maybe not so big?
I’ll have a collection again at some point, just not much at the present.

after all the efforts to import vintage workwear to the US, helping Ralph Lauren and many Japanese, i was asked to depart, it was the first time  i heard the word "depart" in the us, the important was to make these corporates rich, if you end up bad or rejected in europe for the US it does not count, they used you, screw you, robb you $34k before i left etc, 

Edited by Amoskeagdenims - 13 Mar 2026 at 1:48am