Contestjeansgate on the other hand, I remember well. That was the tipping point when things started going south...

That reminds me (actually CSL reminded me)-

I don't believe the full story of contestgate ever came out, as related to me.

I was never directly involved with the contest jeans being made by Leroy. I knew the players of course and had suggested the possibility to Leroy based on the thread interest in him as a maker- but he told me that he wouldn't be able to make any jeans at all along the lines that we were discussing in the contest thread. Not only that but that he wouldn't be able to make one for Denimbruin, which was coming up at that time. He also swore the few people who knew he actually was making some to secrecy, and especially forbade them to tell me.

 Someone did eventually take pity on me and spill the beans, as I was struggling to plan that portion of Denimbruin as I didn't know what would be presented and couldn't properly plan space or announcements.

 I'd said publicly a few times that I was out of the planning for that contest, but somehow after the jeans and the number of them made were revealed I recall taking most of the blame from quite a few people  for their not getting a pair, including a lot of public complaining and several nasty personal dms.

 I also somehow ended up trying to smooth the whole thing over and eventually donated the pair of jeans I was given (a complete surprise to me) to a tour thread to try and ease tensions.

 Its my pair that are still floating around out there on that extended tour. I was okay, if a bit sad, about giving them up to make people feel better about the situation. Surprisingly though I still caught a lot of flack from some about the whole situation.

 The secrecy and some unpleasantness in the follow up soured my relationship with the maker and the blame i took here was the last straw for me in really active denimbro forum involvement.

 

Yeah I definitely was one of the people upset by this at the time. I won't deny that. However, I do know that a lot of other people expressed their anger with my privately through IG. I was just one that actually expressed my unhappiness directly on the forum. I am really sorry if anything that I said pushed you away, Mr. R and I am going to assume it probably did.

I certainly have no ill will over it now and I did not know that it was your pair of jeans that we used for the contest (which I was a part of.) Thank you for doing that as it was fun to participate in that and did ease my feelings about that whole situation. It probably won't, but I hope Denimbruin makes a comeback someday. It was a great experience even if it was the beginning of a downturn for this forum.

Wait a minute!

Factoring these revelations into my calculations, i'm only now responsible for instigating 98.25% of the conflict.

In your face moderators!!

And it looks like I'm pinned for the other 1.75%!

do the two of us really add up to 100% of the issues here?

Nevermind, don't answer that...

What are their measurements these days? I suspect they’ll be too small, but let’s see.

In the spirit of reform, maybe a new tour is in order?

Denimbro Thicc World Tour 2020 (34-35)

i remember the groundswell of content on the superfuture Roy thread by 'Roy-boys' being cleansed from the thread when Roy were first offered at Self-Edge. There was a lot of playful banter about the URCC I think it was called... this was 8-9 years ago when I washed dishes for a living in Central Nebraska, so my memory  of everything at the time is a bit foggy.

It may have been more of a small ripple than full on wave... but i remember at the time feeling rather incensed that content would be moved/deleted. 

This would have been like 2010/2011 maybe.

anyone else remember that?

Where's RNRswitch ... i recall him being instrumental in that thread, in it's earliest incarnation.

Sure, I was a little disappointed but not enough to go out of my way to complain about about it to anyone.

I wasn't around during the early Roy days, I started out on StyleForum and graduated to sufu a couple years later. I'd be interested to hear about it all.

I'm actually going to see Roy in a few weeks.

I  had well over 10,000 posts there. 

But , it ultimately led me towards LVC 47s , I heard about Roy and bought OG Roys instead  so while It was definitely not a great resource for info on heritage /workwear  I   managed to make a ton of good friends there and ultimately ended up here as a result.

I was a visionary