Bitters
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Topic: Bitters
Posted By: mr randal
Subject: Bitters
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2019 at 5:46pm
Something non-denim related I've been into for the last couple of years is making bitters. There was a bitters renaissance at the fancier bars and restaurants a few years back- most places that prided themselves on having an edgy bar would have some house-made bitters on hand for a signature drink or two. Usually these were good, occasionally great, and sometimes it would have been better to stick to Angostura, frankly. That wave has passed a little, but the process can be fun and quite rewarding. Nothing tastes as good as an Old Fashioned mixed with bitters you planned out and brewed up yourself.
The process is pretty straightforward: a combination of (typically) dried or fresh fruit, spices, roots, herbs and bittering agents are added to a menstruum (a dissolving/extracting fluid, in this case alcohol). Different ingredients might be added at different times during the extraction process- early for difficult to extract ingredients like nuts, most dried spice and some dried fruit, or closer to the end of the process for things which are easier to extract flavor from, like most herbs or soft fresh fruit. The extraction usually sits for 1-6 weeks, depending on ingredients and is often shaken daily to speed the process along.
Next the solids are filtered out of the alcohol and added to a little water. This mash is boiled or simmered, then either let to extract for some time or immediately added into the alcohol. The reason for the double extraction using both alcohol and water is that different menstruums extract different compounds and flavors, to some degree. This step also cuts down the ABV of the finished product. After allowing the mixture to sit for a while (the flavors are believed to blend together more fully over time, and some makers will use a oak barrel to age the bitters or add wood chips to the mix for this step) the bitters are strained, filtered, sometimes marginally sweetened, and then decanted into smaller bottles.
Here are the bitters I am using most at the moment:
*first time using imgur*
From left: apricot, Jerry Thomas, mole, fig, and baking spice. The larger far left and right bottles are in their final test phases, and are having some final tinctures of solo ingredients or sweeteners added and tasted until I consider the blend to be satisfactory, at which time I'll decant these to smaller, labeled bottles.
Anybody else tried this process out?
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Posted By: Mainwaring
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 12:17am
An experiment not yet attempted. What ABV are you striking? I had a small Angostura bottle in the cupboard, and would occasionally find it pleasant to have several drops straight on the tongue.
Reminds me of Hemingway too...
After Thomas Hudson had made the drink and shaken a few drops of bitters in it from the bottle that had a gull’s quill in the cork, he raised his glass and then looked down the bar. ….He stood there, holding the long, pleasantly bitter drink, tasting the first swallow of it, and it reminded him of Tanga, Mombasa, and Lamu and all that coast and he had a sudden nostalgia for Africa.
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Posted By: CSL
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 12:35am
A couple of years back I made a record (CD) in Nashville with another pianist & a drummer. The recording engineer was an expert mixologist. We drank Old Fashioneds throughout the session & ended up calling the record Old Fashioned. It featured a couple of tunes with Old Fashioned in the title. Anyhow, I do believe he made his own bitters. Another cool thing he had going was that he made ice cubes that were completely clear & without bubbles. Very stylish, like a cube of glass in the drink.
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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 2:04am
mainwaring- I usually use everclear 120 (the highest proof available in California) for the first menstruum, and roughly one half that amount of the infused water, so what’s that, 80 proof?
As both you and CSL eluded to, there is something especially evocative about the old fashioned. Its status as the first modern mixed drink I suppose, its rich early history in the American east coast down to New Orleans involving tropical spices and snake oil, the exotic, complex nature of the bitters rubs up nicely against the simplicity of the drink (bitters, sugar, whiskey, ice cube, stir) especially when compared to many new school cocktails...
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Posted By: likeacannon
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 3:59pm
Boy I love me some Jerry Thomas, almost as much as Boker's and Angostura. I have yet to try my own bitters, but I've made a few different liqueurs (most recently rhubarb) and they've always turned out well. Now you've peeked my curiosity mr randal! I'll report back in 1-6 weeks.
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Posted By: CSL
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 6:47pm
I go occasionally to a place in St. Louis where the bartended sometimes makes his own tonic water. It makes for a very interesting G&T.
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Posted By: shredwin_206
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 7:50pm
mr randal wrote:
mainwaring- I usually use everclear 120 (the highest proof available in California) for the first menstruum, and roughly one half that amount of the infused water, so what’s that, 80 proof?
As both you and CSL eluded to, there is something especially evocative about the old fashioned. Its status as the first modern mixed drink I suppose, its rich early history in the American east coast down to New Orleans involving tropical spices and snake oil, the exotic, complex nature of the bitters rubs up nicely against the simplicity of the drink (bitters, sugar, whiskey, ice cube, stir) especially when compared to many new school cocktails... |
I’m an old fashioned fanatic. Would like to see your recipe!
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Posted By: Mainwaring
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 5:33am
80 proof produces a good ring. What whiskey for your preferred old fashioned? Or do you use whisky?
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Posted By: Foxy
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 5:46am
Also on my list of possible future projects/hobbies to dive into once I’ve sorted my liquor cabinet: vermouths, gins, (gin based) cocktail mixing and making bitters to go with it.
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Posted By: bartlebyyphonics
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 7:51am
made one once when into vodka martinis... mostly extraction of desiccated orange peel then left to rest with cardamon and other spices / cumin seeds... simple but effective. [mostly prefer neat whiskey alongside decent ale these days...]
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Posted By: CSL
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 10:33am
Mainwaring wrote:
80 proof produces a good ring. What whiskey for your preferred old fashioned? Or do you use whisky? |
Traditionally Rye would be used for any old time US cocktail.
I like Michters but there are many good ones.
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Posted By: Foxy
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 12:21pm
Right, 2-3 years back a couple of books showed up - I grabbed some as it seemed interesting to Perdue at one point in the future...



Anybody actually tried any of the receipts?
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Posted By: likeacannon
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 5:24pm
Foxy wrote:
Anybody actually tried any of the receipts? |
Jim Meehan is a fellow Portlander and a bud, and I've made quite a few of the recipes in his green book. I was just playing with the Tom&Jerry recipe he has in there and it was delicious, especially this time of year.
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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 2:36am
Mainwaring wrote:
80 proof produces a good ring. What whiskey for your preferred old fashioned? Or do you use whisky? |
Main, it depends on the bitters and how fancy you’re feeling.
For a workaday old fashioned with a balanced bitters, Bulleit or Rittenhouse rye are solid.
For bitters that have a subtle flavor and also ones that have a very spicy note, a nice soft bourbon can be great- Four Roses single barrel with mole bitters, for instance, which are both subtle (around the herbal, oregano notes) and spicy at once.
Citrus bitters are interesting with scotch- try orange bitters and Ardbeg 10.
Mid range is the way to go I think- really old whiskey’s complexity is usually lost in a mixed drink, no need to spend too much there.
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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 2:45am
Foxy- I’ve made a number of recipes from the Brad Thomas parsons book. They can be good starting points.
Honestly though they seem a little unbalanced. The cherry hazelnut bitters for instance seem to me to have a lot of unnecessary ingredients and to be a little too on the higher, anisey end of the spice range.
All of his recipes I’ve used I chose to reduce the number of ingredients and rearrange the spice lineup.
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Posted By: Foxy
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 4:24am
likeacannon wrote:
Foxy wrote:
Anybody actually tried any of the receipts? |
Jim Meehan is a fellow Portlander and a bud, and I've made quite a few of the recipes in his green book. I was just playing with the Tom&Jerry recipe he has in there and it was delicious, especially this time of year. |
The manual seems to be solidly balanced given the amount of input he’s used.
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Posted By: Foxy
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 4:25am
mr randal wrote:
Foxy- I’ve made a number of recipes from the Brad Thomas parsons book. They can be good starting points.
Honestly though they seem a little unbalanced. The cherry hazelnut bitters for instance seem to me to have a lot of unnecessary ingredients and to be a little too on the higher, anisey end of the spice range.
All of his recipes I’ve used I chose to reduce the number of ingredients and rearrange the spice lineup. |
Thanks / off to some more reading...
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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 6:19pm
Foxy, I can post one of my recipes if you’d be interested.
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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 6:24pm
shredwin_206 wrote:
I’m an old fashioned fanatic. Would like to see your recipe! |
Pretty standard recipe for me-
1/4oz simple syrup 1/8oz bitters, + or - depending on the batch strength 2oz whiskey
Stir
Pour over ice
Stir
Garnish as appropriate
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Posted By: Foxy
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 2:34am
mr randal wrote:
Foxy, I can post one of my recipes if you’d be interested. |
Please!
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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 8:06pm
A good first recipe to make is one based on the first recorded recipe for a kind of bitters. The original recipe, from an early celebrity bartender, calls for infusing all the ingredients directly in a a bottle of rum, so a kind of pre-made cocktail.
I came up with this recipe based on Jerry's concoction:
Jerry Thomas Bitters
1 heaping tblspn dried lemon peel 1 heaping tblspn dried bitter orange peel 2 cinnamon sticks (about 2" each)
1 tblspn whole cloves 1 tblspn whole allspice 1 tspn black pepper 1 cup raisins, coarsely chopped 2 tspn dried gentian root 2 cups everclear 120
Combine all ingredients except gentian root in a large glass mason jar. You can crush all of the spices lightly beforehand- say with the bottom of a glass on a wooden cutting board. Store out of direct sunlight, shake daily for 2 weeks. open, add gentian root, reseal and shake daily for an additional week.
Strain solids out of alcohol by pouring through a fine mesh. Add solids to about 1 and 1/2 cup of filtered water. Simmer lightly for about 20 minutes. Cool thoroughly, strain, add water to alcohol. Filter through paper towels and then through coffee filters. This step takes some time, be patient.
Add 2 tblspns rich syrup.
Decant into dropper or shaker bottles.
Make delicious cocktails!
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Posted By: robroy
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 9:26pm
It gladdens my heart to see you back here Mark, even if it is speaking to non denim related nonsense like ruining perfectly good whiskey.
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Posted By: mr randal
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 10:59pm
Ha!
I do like sipping whiskey neat, of course, but an old fashioned really hits the spot sometimes and is just a lot of fun to make.
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Posted By: robroy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 11:07am
Agreed. I do enjoy making them for the Ms. old fashions are her drink. She loves bitters and has been dabbling in making her own simple syrups, garnish etc, so I’m going to share your recipe with her.
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