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    Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 10:18am
Hey all,

I'm hoping we can use this thread to gather together some of the concerns and possible solutions about the forum's fate in light of recent events. I'm still pretty confused about it all so help me sort out the facts, eh? The short version seems to be that...

-The forum's built-in hosting data limit is fairly low, and more storage is costly

-We hit the storage cap and mods unknown began deleting threads to recover space

-Most (all?) of the mods are either checked-out or uninterested in managing the site

What we need to know:

-How much would a storage upgrade cost?

-Should we continue on-site hosting for images, or go back to requiring outside hosting (photobucket, imgur, flickr, etc)?

-Can the content of the deleted threads be recovered?

-How can we avoid hitting the storage cap again in the future? Or if it is unavoidable, what should be the agreed-upon procedure to manage the data cap?

-Who is well-suited and interested in moderating the site?

I'm going to make an effort to be more active until at least some of these questions are answered. I don't currently have the ability to assign new mods or change the storage/hosting settings, but I'm going to see if I can acquire these powers at least temporarily so we can get the forum back in shape.

Basically all I can do with my mod powers right now is move, delete, or lock threads, ban members, and edit other people's posts. 

I apologize if the process is a little slow, I don't know much about the finer points of website management. In particular I don't know how to answer the question about whether the deleted content can be recovered. 

If anyone has relevant info, ideas, useful skills to contribute, feel free to discuss here. Have I missed any important points?

In order to avoid further conspiracy theorizing, please keep it in the thread rather than sending me private messages (unless there's a specific mod action that needs to be performed posthaste).
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Thanks for taking this on hollows.

I would think first and foremost image hosting should be relegated to external sources. I can’t imagine how many threads could be had (data wise) for the sake of one image. It’s gotta be a lot.

I suggested this before in the other thread but I’ll say it again, in order to preserve what we do have I recommend deleting some of the non denim related threads. That would at least clear some cache. Someone else suggested cleaning out your private message inbox.

I know I’m not a frequent poster and I’m also not the most tech savvy but if mods are in short supply these days I’ll volunteer for duty.
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Even by the title I knew who had started this thread

I'm happy to do whatever is (reasonably? - before certain folk get too excited) necessary

My only request is that the truth be always told - server space, costs and especially fit … if it looks shit you should be told - it's a Denimbro speciality and keeps things real. You can't make an omelette etc ...
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From my perspective, whatever has happened is in the past, surely everyone can sense how fucking annoyed we all are so let's not waste anymore valuable time debating it, it's not going to change anything.

Recovering the lost data is key, if this can be done i'll do whatever i possibly can to keep Denimbro on the tracks.

We need some tech-savvy peeps on the case asap, if no volunteers come fwd and we have to pay for somebody's time and/or advice so be it.

We need to contact our hosting site WebWiz to see what can be done regarding recovery, again, if we have to pay for it, so be it.

Everything else can be sorted out in good time, but without our precious content we have no basis for a forum, we can't continue posting in the psh,aaa thread indefinitely.

When you say 'costly' can we have a rough costimate?

What's the salary of a small 'denim-forum moderator' these days £25,000p/a?
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Originally posted by Double 0 Soul Double 0 Soul wrote:

Recovering the lost data is key,

Correct

But as well as that, the arguments and upsets and jokes (no not you Maynard ) and general attitude are what made the place. The size of the forum had an influence on that as well as the contributors.

I hope both data and soul can be saved

As I said previously - I'm very willing to contribute time and money. I'm pretty sure I can help on tech issues once I know what is required.
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Couldn't agree more, very few people come to forum-land the complete package (apart from me obviously) i love to see people grow into a style which suits them and their personality, instead of masking over it. They often need some form of gentle honing to reach the denim-promiseland, we shouldn't let terrible fits fly through fears of being branded a bully.
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Originally posted by julian-wolf julian-wolf wrote:

It would really be a shame too see a text-based forum, of all website-types, go by the wayside due to space constraints. The only thing on the whole site that takes up any space is the locally-hosted images, and it shouldn’t be difficult at all to automate hosting those elsewhere—a quick google search shows that imgur has a public API, which would probably do most of the work for us. Deleting information is never the right approach in an age when space can be had for so cheap. At worst, it should be periodically shuffled around a bit.

I don’t have any experience with programming web stuff, but I would be happy to help out if no one else has the time / feels comfortable doing so.


This^ post fills me with a lot of hope.
Julian- Can you elaborate further/offer some advice and possibly answer a few questions.. y'know in exchange for all that good SugarCane info Wink
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